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Re: Smart card exploration software? (somewhat OT)

From: Chris Kalos <>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:32:20 -0500 (EST)

	I see.  DSS cards can practically be broken and bent to one's
submission quite easily, actually.  You just need the proper warez buddies
>:-]

Off the shelf card reader/writers are all you need.

	However, you can't just grab data out of the card.  It's nothing
at all like a smartmedia card, or a floppy disk.  It's more like talking
to the floppy controller.  Now imagine that everyone makes a different
floppy controller design that's totally incompatible with other
implementations.  That's the fun that is a smart card.  Enough people are
having enough fun pirating DSS that they kinda forced themselves to get
this kind of thing working.  I wouldn't recommend messing with your Blue
card, though.  DSS reverts back to what you legally have access to after a
while.  I don't know if your Blue card would be so lucky, and unless you
know exactly what you're interfacing to...  *shudder*

"Whoa!  I didn't spend 30,000 dollars on a toilet seat last week!"

	If it were just a memory card, then you'd at least *know* when
you're reading and when you're writing.

CK

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Vito wrote:

> Chris Kalos wrote:
> > 
> > That brings to mind, what *do* you need to deal with smart cards for?
> 
> Just to futz.  :)
> 
> I've got an American Express Blue card, which has a smart card chip, my
> satellite receiver smart card, and a few others of unknown type
> (friend's relative is fairly high up in Schlumberger).  I've got two
> PC/SC smart card readers, and I just want to poke around on the cards,
> see what different things do, that sort of thing.
> 
> Unfortunately, most of the DSS stuff I was pointed to requires more
> low-level access to the card reader, which usually means a hand-made one
> hanging off a parallel or serial port.
> 
> You'd think there'd be a "Smart Card Explorer" that lets you look at all
> the data stored on a card, no?
> 
> --Vito
> 
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