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Re: Smart card exploration software? (somewhat OT) (fwd)

From: "Rich Ervin" <>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:57:31 -0600

> Mind you, HU series cards can't be hacked effectively (yet), and if you're
> not paying for any of your service at all, you probably deserve to be
> dragged to prison for stealing TV service. :-)
H cards are difficult to find and are worth money on e-bay.  Check it out
and see the action. "looped" cards are worthless.  If you loop your card or
get it looped, it'll cost you $50 for professional "cleaning", and that's
not guaranteed.

> moneymaker for them.  Cable and DSS are like razors and videogame
> consoles.  The hardware (or razor handle) is sold at a loss.  If you're
Are you saying I should steal razors or razor handles?

Anyway, I followed the DSS hacking group for some time because I wanted to
know more about the topic, but wasn't really interested in stealing service.
What I learned convinced me that, if you choose to engage in DTV hacking,
don't even THINK about saving any money on service because the cost of
equipment, time, and cleaning services will cost you more than you were
probably ever going to spend on legitimate service.

As for tracking you down, the satellite companies do track you down in this
way.  Once a popular "hack" has been identified, the satellite companies
creates a reverse "hack".  This does NOT merely restore your card to an
original state.  It instead destroys the programming on your card.  You are
now left with the difficult and expensive choice of calling your provider
and telling them your card got hit with a bullet, buying a brand new card
and reporting to the service provider that you need a new card activated, or
paying to get your card "cleaned" then waiting until the next bullet gets
you.

As a hobby, I think it is interesting.  As a way to get cheap TV, I'd say
forget it.

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