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Thirsty for Mobile Power

From: Doug Sutherland <>
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 05:48:27 -0800

wear-hards,

I have been exploring all of the power options I can 
find out there. Seems that most people are using the 
NP-F960 camcorder battery packs, which are rated at
7.2v 5400mah. I am looking at some other alternatives.

1) I have found a someone who already has a charging 
   circuit which will provide two very desireable 
   features. The system can operate while charging, 
   and I can query the charging module via serial 
   connection to retrieve the battery data. He even
   has example source code for querying the status 
   of the battery (voltage/current/temp).

   a) He is recommending that I go with NiH battery 
      packs, and he can program charging for sanyo 
      9.6v 4500mah battery packs. He says he can 
      program the charger to operate with two packs 
      in series, that's 19.2v 9000mah. It would be 
      heavier than the NP-F960s but I would never 
      have to change batteries again because I will 
      be able to just plug in and operate/charge
      like a laptop. I am trying to get the weight
      and dimensions of the battery packs and the
      charger circuitry. Battery packs are $115 
      each and the charger is only $55. He will 
      likely charge me extra for the custom 
      programming but I think it will still only 
      be $350 or so for everything.

   b) I am trying to convince this same guy to do
      an equivalent system using li-ions cells. 
      He is hesitant and is trying to convince me
      to go with the above. That's not surprising 
      because li-ion is more complex charging and 
      must be right or they can explode. He said 
      he can do a li-ion system but says it will 
      be expensive and will take a couple of 
      months before he can deliver. At last word
      I told him that I may be willing to cough 
      up the necessary bucks even if it's $500+
      for the system I want, which would be the 
      same as the above with smaller and lighter 
      li-ion battery packs, long running time, 
      ability to query the battery status, and 
      eventually tapping into the linux APM bios 
      to work exactly like a laptop.

2) ID Technology has some very interesting li-ion
   battery packs. They are 7x3x1 inches, weigh 
   0.86 pounds, and are 14.4v 3200mah. I could 
   use two of these in series for 28.8v 6400mah,
   they would be slimline and nicely distributed,
   less than 2 pounds, and they also have LEDs on 
   the battery packs that indicate the power status. 
   Charging would still be offboard, and there 
   would be no way to programmatically query the 
   battery status. I have no idea what the price
   is but I'm sure they are more than the sonys
   and the chargers are probably more expensive.
   http://www.idxtek.com/lithion.html

Any thoughts on this?

  -- Doug

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