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From: Joe West <>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:23:25 -0500

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Hi all,

Sorry that this is not wearable specificquestion...but I don't kmnow where
else to ask.

My company is throwing a party on the USS Intrepid on the 29th...anyone in
NYC knows that the Intrepid is a aircraft carrier that is drydocked on the
west side in Mid town manhattan.  Well...My group is doing a live cybercast
of the event that is taking place in the belly of the boat.  We need 5-10
Mbps of connectivity to the net and it needs to be wireless...his is for our
different bit-rate encoded streams...we currently do one 28K, one 56K and
one 100K each in both Windows Media player and Real G2.  

The big problem is that the boat has no connectivity, nothing.  I specced
out some wireless LAN bridges that can do 11 Mbps up to 8 miles line of
sight- and looking out of our office window, I can see some of the boat.
Therefore, my solution was to get 2 wireless LAN bridges, install a
semi-permanent parabolic dish in our office pointing out of the window, and
one on a line-of-sight are on the Intrepid.  Unfortunately, we only have
three weeks to make this happen.

So, if anyone has any ideas, please, please let me know or refer me to
someone.  

Basically, is there a broadband, non-line of sight wireless system available
in NYC.  I want something that I can just "plug" into and have wireless BB
net access...possible?

I really appreciate it.

Joe West
Cybercast Technician
Urban Box Office
601 W. 26th Street
12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212)706-3400

-----Original Message-----
From:  [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:37 PM
To: Jeremiah Alfrey; Alex Pilosov
Cc: 
Subject: Re: sprint pcs wireless web access

 From: Alex Pilosov <>
>On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Jeremiah Alfrey wrote:
>> Why not just get a Ricochet or other wireless service?
>> ricochet is 33.6 speeds
>> http://metricom.com
>
>Cause ricochet is only available in Bay Area and maybe one or two
>other cities. They have been promising NYC availability for last 2
>years, and I have lost hope.

Yeah, like most telco's, ricochet is slow.  However, the rollouts
they've been promising were held up by the extended beta period for the
Ricochet2 network.

It's going to be SWEET!

Currently, ricochet has two big strikes against it: 

1- I usualy get ~10% packet loss (terrible on interactive processes
like telnet)

2- average 500-750ms latency. OUCH! 

However, the new network I saw virtually no packet loss and the latency
was down to 150-200ms, about the same as a modem. Tolerable

and yes, the bandwidth goes up by a lot. 128kbit they say, I got double
my existing speed with my old 1st generation modem. according to
netscape, I got ~8kb/sec downloads!

The rollout here in the bay area isn't scheduled until mid-to-late
summer, but I'm not holding my breath.  I expect early fall.

   - Kevin

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi all,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sorry that this is not wearable =
specificquestion...but I don't kmnow where else to ask.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My company is throwing a party on the USS Intrepid on =
the 29th...anyone in NYC knows that the Intrepid is a aircraft carrier =
that is drydocked on the west side in Mid town manhattan.  =
Well...My group is doing a live cybercast of the event that is taking =
place in the belly of the boat.  We need 5-10 Mbps of connectivity =
to the net and it needs to be wireless...his is for our different =
bit-rate encoded streams...we currently do one 28K, one 56K and one =
100K each in both Windows Media player and Real G2.  </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The big problem is that the boat has no connectivity, =
nothing.  I specced out some wireless LAN bridges that can do 11 =
Mbps up to 8 miles line of sight- and looking out of our office window, =
I can see some of the boat.  Therefore, my solution was to get 2 =
wireless LAN bridges, install a semi-permanent parabolic dish in our =
office pointing out of the window, and one on a line-of-sight are on =
the Intrepid.  Unfortunately, we only have three weeks to make =
this happen.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>So, if anyone has any ideas, please, please let me =
know or refer me to someone.  </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Basically, is there a broadband, non-line of sight =
wireless system available in NYC.  I want something that I can =
just "plug" into and have wireless BB net =
access...possible?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I really appreciate it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Joe West</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cybercast Technician</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Urban Box Office</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>601 W. 26th Street</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>12th Floor</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>New York, NY 10001</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(212)706-3400</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From:  [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:">mailto:</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:37 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Jeremiah Alfrey; Alex Pilosov</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: sprint pcs wireless web access</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> From: Alex Pilosov =
<></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Jeremiah Alfrey =
wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>> Why not just get a Ricochet or other =
wireless service?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>> ricochet is 33.6 speeds</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>> <A HREF=3D"http://metricom.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://metricom.com</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Cause ricochet is only available in Bay Area and =
maybe one or two</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>other cities. They have been promising NYC =
availability for last 2</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>years, and I have lost hope.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yeah, like most telco's, ricochet is slow.  =
However, the rollouts</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>they've been promising were held up by the extended =
beta period for the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ricochet2 network.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's going to be SWEET!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Currently, ricochet has two big strikes against it: =
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1- I usualy get ~10% packet loss (terrible on =
interactive processes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>like telnet)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>2- average 500-750ms latency. OUCH! </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>However, the new network I saw virtually no packet =
loss and the latency</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>was down to 150-200ms, about the same as a modem. =
Tolerable</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>and yes, the bandwidth goes up by a lot. 128kbit they =
say, I got double</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>my existing speed with my old 1st generation modem. =
according to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>netscape, I got ~8kb/sec downloads!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The rollout here in the bay area isn't scheduled =
until mid-to-late</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>summer, but I'm not holding my breath.  I =
expect early fall.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>   - Kevin</FONT>
</P>

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