Well, being a lowly Linux hacker, I can't really comment on Espial's business model much, only that they are targetting embedded device manufacturers. It is my understanding that the evals are not restricted for personal use, and are fully functional / not crippled in any way. I don't work on the Escape/Ebox products - my area is the Total IA reference platform. But, if you did have a commercial application, I'm pretty sure Espial would work with you on it - we have SDKs for our products, so I'd imagine source would be available (again, none of this is official in any way ... I just get paid to hack the kernel and play with a bunch of nifty toys). My own personal opinion is that we've got some kickass talent working on this stuff, and it's pretty freakin' cool - embeddable in all kinds of devices, we're talking from webpads/desktops all the way down to cell phones, etc. The Escape browser is actually pretty damn cool - blew me out of the water when I first saw it running. I don't know if you've ever seen http://www.devicetop.com - Espial runs it in partnership with Sun and a bunch of other Java tech companies - It's a community development site where you can find the Espial SDKs, tutorials, discussion groups, a library of open-source Java apps for mobile platforms, etc. - Mike K. On Tuesday 01 May 2001 12:26, Doug Sutherland wrote: > I downloaded Espial's Ebox (mail client) and Escape (browser) but they > only provide JDK 1.1.x versions on the web site. They wouldn't run with > my blackdown Java 2 (JDK1.2.2 FCS). The Espial docs say that there are > Java2 versions, but they must be requested from Espial. I sent an email > to yer company a few minutes ago requesting the Java2 versions. I have > to say it seems strange (and annoying) that I can download the JDK 1.1 > versions but have to make special requests for JDK 1.2 versions. I am > looking forward to trying out Ebox and Escape. But the source code is > obfuscated (class names are aa and ab and ac etc) and its not clear > what the business model is, it appears that Espial wants to sell me > a license with royalties (just guessing ...). Nothing wrong with that > but I only want them for personal use at the moment. However, if they > are good, I might have some actual commercial uses for these at some > point down the road. I would prefer java-based mail and browser apps > with source code though, so I can modify for wearability by adding > speech and other interfaces like matrix keypads etc. > > -- Doug -- Subscription/unsubscription/info requests: send e-mail with subject of "subscribe", "unsubscribe", or "info" toWear-Hard Mailing List Archive (searchable): http://wearables.blu.org please, Please, *PLEASE* don't subscribe through a forward/false domain
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