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Re: richochet modems

From: "Charles Bolton" <>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:19:59 -0700

Michael:

Did you test the unit in *STAR* mode or was this hearsay from someone else.
I would not be supprised by the 256 number since that suggests that the
backhaul 2.4 Gigahertz link has a more bandwidth for retires and
administrative overhead.

Also how did the measure the starmode thruput - file size download.

Re:  What I am paying now is what the serice is worth to me.  Part of the
reason of the higher cost is because metricom went to a channel sales
organization and they had to sweeten a deal for their providers.
Unfortuanately, they are not pumping enough product and agreements to get
dollars flowing back.

It is a great technology, but if it does'nt get off the ground, I wonder how
it will survive in the face of 3G high bandwidth technologies and even the
128 KBPS data services promised by CDMA and GSM (2.5).

Ricochet is a no brainer to set up, but based on my experience at my
previous job, most sales clones can't figure it out.

Cordially

cb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Paine" <>
To: "Charles Bolton" <>; <>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: richochet modems

> If you still are paying $28 a month, check out
> http://www.metricom.com/getricochet.htm
>
> WWC will let you have a free GS modem for upgrading to the $74.95/mo or
> $825-$30/yr..
> ..and the 128kbps modems have been clocked @ 256kbps using starmode..
> but, yes, 28.8kbps is fine for most wearable ideas (except MP3 streaming
> audio -- GSM/G.723.1 is fine)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Bolton" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: richochet modems
>
>
> The legacy ricochet is a useful tool.   I have two, one that I maintained
on
> metricoms system for $28.00 per month and the other I use as point to
point
> radio with a bread board ricochet device.
> The current high speed service is overpriced.  The legacy service,
> un-fortunately is no longer supported.  They have grandfarthered in all
> those who previously had the service and elected not to go high speed.
>
> The secret is that if you configure the unit correctly, you can get up to
50
> kbps burst mode.   And the radios native transport is rated for 100 kbps,
> but you have to subtract out re-transmits for failed packets and
> administrative overhead.
>
> The nice thing is that with a wearable I can stay connected in the bay
area
> and in 7 other markets for a minimum cost.
>
> cordially
>
> cb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Papp" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: richochet modems
>
>
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> > On Thu, 3 May 2001, Kalrand wrote:
> >
> > > It seems like several of you have acquired old richochet modems from
> ebay,
> > > I'm curious what people are actually using them to do. I saw Dan got
his
> > > working, but (IIRC) no one has mentioned any real tasks that they
> preform...
> >
> > That would be me (Don) - I'm using mine as a test PPP link between
> > two machines, with one acting as gateway to the Internet. In other
words,
> > cheap (but slow) wireless network.  That's one use.
> >
> > It's mostly of use to those of us who enjoy twisting a commercial
> > product's original purpose; are interested in cheap wireless network
> > access (for example, community-based access to the Internet for little
to
> > no money); or can easily imagine applications for wireless RS-232 (data
> > aquisition, remote control, telemetry, robotics, etc).
> >
> > But for the average user, it's likely a big "so what?".
> >
> > Don P
> > http://aeinnovations.com
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