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Re: Technological Singularity

Interesting read by Bill Joy, except that he left out the ever important
NATURE.  His assumptions as an elite stratified between eliminating everyone
and helping everyone forgets there is a grey world in between these two
poles -- life will never be purposeless!  I do agree with you, Doug, that
the "true" elite have minimized their needs on technology -- although
deserted islands are abound, if people don't already live there, then I bet
it is *very* hard to live there as a human.

I don't think machines could rule the world, because the world is ruled by
nature and technology is kinda anti-nature (unless you consider everything
is nature).  Imagine a machine mining for copper (or other elements) when
nature decides to flash-flood the whole scene, destroying everything.  The
expense for machines to rule the world is too costly.  In fact, the progress
of technology is still prehistoric at many levels -- I'm still waiting for
eShades..

on the topic of eShades, a person I work with in related to a person who
works at Inviso -- although she was quite amazed at a demo model, she
worries if Inviso will have enough capital to actually produce/release
them..

hmm.. I wonder how many years of advances in technology has been losted due
to the current market slump?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sutherland" <>
To: <>; "Don Papp" <>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Technological Singularity

> Don Papp wrote:
>
> > "we are on the edge of [...]the imminent creation by technology of
> > entities with greater than human intelligence.
>
> I wonder if you have read Bill Joy's "why the future doesn't need us"
> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html
>
> > We're getting there...
>
> Sometimes I wonder if we are already going too far. Genetic engineering
> and human cloning are pretty scary if you ask me. Technology is lots o
> fun but when it crossed into "spirit" and "soul" I may end up escaping
> to some desterted island. Check out this article too ...
>
> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.11/persinger.html
>
>   -- Doug
>
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