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RE: wearable ideas (ELIZA SOURCE)

Hi Mark,
Good to hear from a fellow buckeye.
I'll dig up the code and email it over to you (it's been "a few" years - but
just found my first 2 C programming assignments!)
-Mel

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Knapke [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:16 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: wearable ideas (ELIZA SOURCE)

Melanie & all,
I'm also relatively new to this list, and I'm a student at the University of
Dayton (in Ohio) and I am doing Computer Science (Programming), with that in
mind, I don't have a huge budget for a wearable, but I do want to get one
together sometime. Melanie, Could you get me that code for the "teachable
software" ? I think that would be really cool. Also, for everyone, I was
randomly searching the internet for diffferent Linux distros, and I came
across one that is only 16Mb in size. I thought that was pretty neat, it
does have some X stuff included, and Esd (E sound), the url is
http://jailbait.sourceforge.net/ Unfortunately, I didn't run across any
Distros that I was looking for, namely distros that aren't really distros,
more like Do-it-yourself distros, or a "Make your own distro" kinda thing.
I'm pretty sure as of now that I want to do OS type programming, so I want
to try that out and see what I can do. If anyone has heard of such a thing,
can you please relay that info to me? I'd be thankful.
Thanks
Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melanie McGee" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: wearable ideas (ELIZA SOURCE)

> Hi all,
> I'm new to this list & would like to introduce myself.
> My name is Melanie McGee and I'm from the Cleveland OH area.
> I'm a programmer, not an electrical/computer engineer, but have been
> extremely interested in wearcomps for almost a year.
>
> A suggestion and question...
>
> I think your idea for a purse is fantastic! I've been playing around with
> clothing options too - but just mentally. I especially love how the
> symbolism of a purse - carrying essential items around - is matched with
the
> technology (with an integrated psychologist to boot!)
>
> Writing an "expert intelligence" system in C is fairly trivial. Have you
> considered writing a little application that will allow her to keep a
> "database" of useful items? I remember an early C class I took, we wrote
an
> app that allowed the user to "teach" the computer. It started with 1 piece
> of knowledge: an object,  and a distinguishing factor about that object.
> (for example: Cat -> it is alive)
> The program would query the user - "is it alive?" if yes -> is it a cat?
if
> yes -> info, else -> what is it? and what distinguishes it from a cat?
> That concept may be interesting for your purse. I can get you the code if
> you are interested.
>
> Now, here's my question:
> I'm working on moving from concept to design for my wearcomp. Keep in mind
> that I'm a programmer, and not an electrical/computer engineer type (I'm
> decent for a hack though)
> I'm looking into boards/processors etc for my wearcomp, and noticed that
> there is a new (?) product from ampro called EnCore. Is anyone familiar
with
> this product? Pros/Cons? Utility? Warnings?
> Any input that would help me get the best possible system together would
> sincerely be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> Mel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:54 PM
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: wearable ideas (ELIZA SOURCE)
>
>
> In a message dated 9/5/2001 3:38:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>  writes:
>
> << I want to get the source code for that old "Eliza" AI
>      experiment/game and make it work with viavoice. I had this
>      on my trash-80 model I in the late '70s. Eliza is a doctor
>      (psychologist) and you interact with her telling her your
>      problems. Talk about insanity, her purse will be the
>      doctor, and she will have lengthy conversations with it!
>      She's going to laugh at this one. If anyone knows where
>      I can get the linux source code for the infamous Eliza
>      please let me know. >>
>
> How about this? From
http://www.psychol.ucl.ac.uk/www/light_connections.html
>
> Eliza
> Eliza is the name of a simple programme which uses a natural language
> interface to trick you into thinking it is intelligent. She's a doctor who
> you can talk to about your ailments. You can get the code for Eliza for
your
> computer from the places listed below, and many more ...
>
> The software from Peter Norvig's book "Paradigms of AI Programming" is
> available by anonymous ftp from unix.sri.com:pub/norvig and on disk in
> Macintosh or DOS format from the publisher, Morgan Kaufmann. The software
> includes Common Lisp implementations of: Eliza and pattern matchers,
Emycin,
> Othello, Parsers, Scheme interpreters and compilers, Unification and a
> prolog
> interpreter and compiler, Waltz line-labelling, implementation of GPS,
> macsyma, and random number generators. For more information, write to
Morgan
> Kaufmann, Dept. P1, 2929 Campus Drive, Suite 260, San Mateo CA 94403, call
> 800-745-7323, or fax 415-578-0672. (Mac ISBN 1-55860-227-5; DOS 3.5" ISBN
> 1-55860-228-3; or DOS 5.25" ISBN 1-55860-229-1).
>
> The doctor.el is an implementation of Eliza for GNU-Emacs emacs-lisp.
Invoke
> it with "Meta-X doctor".
>
> Source code for ELIZA in Prolog (implemented by Viren Patel) is available
by
> ftp from aisun1.ai.uga.edu.
>
> muLISP-87 (a MSDOS Lisp sold by Soft Warehouse) includes a Lisp
> implementation of Eliza.
>
> Compute!'s Gazette, June 1984, includes source for a BASIC implementation
of
> Eliza. You can also find it in 101 more computer games, edited by David
Ahl,
> published by Creative Computing (alas, they're defunct, and the book is
out
> of print).
>
> Herbert Schildt "Artificial Intelligence using C", McGraw-Hill, 1987, ISBN
> 0-07-881255-0, pp315-338, includes a simple version of DOCTOR.
>
> ucsd.edu:pub/pc-ai contains implementations of Eliza for the IBM PC.
>
> Or how about the code for it in basic? Available in plaintext at
> http://www.basicguru.com/files/abc/abc9509/eliza.bas
>
> Or maybe a Gnu emacs implementation in plaintext here:
> http://www.cs.umbc.edu/471/papers/emacs-doctor.shtml
>
> Or if, for some reason, you wanted prolog... here it is in plaintext as
> well:
> http://www.cs.umbc.edu/471/prolog/eliza.pl
>
> I think this should be what you're looking for. It's the eliza that I
> remember... hope it helps.
>
> ~patrick
>
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