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Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)

From: Michael Paine <>
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 21:57:34 -0700

Is it illegal to save realtime transcriptions of privately streamed audio
(non recorded) of a police officer?  This is something a wearable computer
could do someday (well, NatSpeak 5.0 can sorta already.. better than
nothing).  Wait a second.. what does the NSA/jails use to datamind cellphone
calls?  I guess they have a grammar for important words.. unless they have a
superior dication mode that is better than NatSpeak 5.0, which I doubt.

> You can video tape anyone on the street. But if you are having a
> "Private" one on one
> conversation with an officer and record the audio your violating
> wiretapping laws because the officer has an expectation of privacy.
> About 2 months ago someone was in the news because they used a
> microcassette recorded while being arrested for DUI, he was also charged
> with wiretapping.
>
> Aside from that it would be nice if policeabuse.org would use their
> valuable time and technology to capture evidence of general abuse, in
> other words the daily crimes that take place on the streets of
> metropolitan areas, but that does not get you the big headlines.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)
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>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:12:59 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a>
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> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:56:41 -0700
> >From: Khoder bin Hakkin <>
> >To: 
> >Subject: gargoyling the police site
> >
> >http://policeabuse.org/how.html
> >
> >The PCC uses state-of-the-art technology to investigate
> >and document acts of misconduct by law enforcement
> >personnel. For example, we use digital video and
> >miniature cameras to investigate and analyze incidents
> >of police misconduct around the country. Using several
> >PC's we are a capable of processing as many as five
> >hundred complaints per day. We maintain a video log
> >of police incidents captured on tape throughout the
> >country.
>
> Wow! Is that legal in the U.S.A. ?
> Or rather - is the evidence permissable.
> If everyone who got stopped for a speeding offense were allowed to
> videotape the conviction would the officers "mind" at all ?
>
> sarin.com looks interesting :-)
> Answers on a postcard for western names associated with anti-social
> phenomenon. Unfortunate name I guess but... Here I am focussing on
> augmenting my reality when I could amplify it. Interesting looking stuff
> they got there.
>
> Khoder bin Hakkin ?
> Hakker Bin Kodin more like!!
>
> out!
>
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