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Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)

So, this thread is a bit off topic, but for those who are interested
here's the /. article about it being illegal to record police:
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/07/14/0834224.shtml
I think the gist was that in some states, making audio recordings w/o
knowledge/consent was consdiered illegal wiretapping.  I just figure that
by the time I get recording equipment running in my car I can flash [Rec]
on the LED sign in the back window if I manage to get pulled over ;)

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Bryan Hurley wrote:

>
> It recently became law in the U.S.A. for it to be ILLEGAL for the person
> being stopped by the police to record the incident, whereas more and more
> police cars now have video cameras to record the person being stopped,
> which is only available to the police, not the defendant most likely....
>
> Bryan
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Michael Paine wrote:
>
> > Is it illegal to save realtime transcriptions of privately streamed audio
> > (non recorded) of a police officer?  This is something a wearable computer
> > could do someday (well, NatSpeak 5.0 can sorta already.. better than
> > nothing).  Wait a second.. what does the NSA/jails use to datamind cellphone
> > calls?  I guess they have a grammar for important words.. unless they have a
> > superior dication mode that is better than NatSpeak 5.0, which I doubt.
> >
> >
> > > You can video tape anyone on the street. But if you are having a
> > > "Private" one on one
> > > conversation with an officer and record the audio your violating
> > > wiretapping laws because the officer has an expectation of privacy.
> > > About 2 months ago someone was in the news because they used a
> > > microcassette recorded while being arrested for DUI, he was also charged
> > > with wiretapping.
> > >
> > > Aside from that it would be nice if policeabuse.org would use their
> > > valuable time and technology to capture evidence of general abuse, in
> > > other words the daily crimes that take place on the streets of
> > > metropolitan areas, but that does not get you the big headlines.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Russell [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:49 PM
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:12:59 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a>
> > > >______________________________________________________________
> > > >ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204
> > > >57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3
> > > >
> > > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:56:41 -0700
> > > >From: Khoder bin Hakkin <>
> > > >To: 
> > > >Subject: gargoyling the police site
> > > >
> > > >http://policeabuse.org/how.html
> > > >
> > > >The PCC uses state-of-the-art technology to investigate
> > > >and document acts of misconduct by law enforcement
> > > >personnel. For example, we use digital video and
> > > >miniature cameras to investigate and analyze incidents
> > > >of police misconduct around the country. Using several
> > > >PC's we are a capable of processing as many as five
> > > >hundred complaints per day. We maintain a video log
> > > >of police incidents captured on tape throughout the
> > > >country.
> > >
> > > Wow! Is that legal in the U.S.A. ?
> > > Or rather - is the evidence permissable.
> > > If everyone who got stopped for a speeding offense were allowed to
> > > videotape the conviction would the officers "mind" at all ?
> > >
> > > sarin.com looks interesting :-)
> > > Answers on a postcard for western names associated with anti-social
> > > phenomenon. Unfortunate name I guess but... Here I am focussing on
> > > augmenting my reality when I could amplify it. Interesting looking stuff
> > > they got there.
> > >
> > > Khoder bin Hakkin ?
> > > Hakker Bin Kodin more like!!
> > >
> > > out!
> > >
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