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Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)

it is just a way to further make police officers more powerful...you can bet
the camera would "accidentally" not function or the tape would
"accidentally" get erased if the officer were being abusive......they are
"protected" form the people they are stopping.....but who is protecting us
from them?......just my two cents....

Eli

----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Hurley <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)

>
> It recently became law in the U.S.A. for it to be ILLEGAL for the person
> being stopped by the police to record the incident, whereas more and more
> police cars now have video cameras to record the person being stopped,
> which is only available to the police, not the defendant most likely....
>
> Bryan
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Michael Paine wrote:
>
> > Is it illegal to save realtime transcriptions of privately streamed
audio
> > (non recorded) of a police officer?  This is something a wearable
computer
> > could do someday (well, NatSpeak 5.0 can sorta already.. better than
> > nothing).  Wait a second.. what does the NSA/jails use to datamind
cellphone
> > calls?  I guess they have a grammar for important words.. unless they
have a
> > superior dication mode that is better than NatSpeak 5.0, which I doubt.
> >
> >
> > > You can video tape anyone on the street. But if you are having a
> > > "Private" one on one
> > > conversation with an officer and record the audio your violating
> > > wiretapping laws because the officer has an expectation of privacy.
> > > About 2 months ago someone was in the news because they used a
> > > microcassette recorded while being arrested for DUI, he was also
charged
> > > with wiretapping.
> > >
> > > Aside from that it would be nice if policeabuse.org would use their
> > > valuable time and technology to capture evidence of general abuse, in
> > > other words the daily crimes that take place on the streets of
> > > metropolitan areas, but that does not get you the big headlines.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Russell [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:49 PM
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:12:59 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a>
> > > >______________________________________________________________
> > > >ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204
> > > >57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3
> > > >
> > > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:56:41 -0700
> > > >From: Khoder bin Hakkin <>
> > > >To: 
> > > >Subject: gargoyling the police site
> > > >
> > > >http://policeabuse.org/how.html
> > > >
> > > >The PCC uses state-of-the-art technology to investigate
> > > >and document acts of misconduct by law enforcement
> > > >personnel. For example, we use digital video and
> > > >miniature cameras to investigate and analyze incidents
> > > >of police misconduct around the country. Using several
> > > >PC's we are a capable of processing as many as five
> > > >hundred complaints per day. We maintain a video log
> > > >of police incidents captured on tape throughout the
> > > >country.
> > >
> > > Wow! Is that legal in the U.S.A. ?
> > > Or rather - is the evidence permissable.
> > > If everyone who got stopped for a speeding offense were allowed to
> > > videotape the conviction would the officers "mind" at all ?
> > >
> > > sarin.com looks interesting :-)
> > > Answers on a postcard for western names associated with anti-social
> > > phenomenon. Unfortunate name I guess but... Here I am focussing on
> > > augmenting my reality when I could amplify it. Interesting looking
stuff
> > > they got there.
> > >
> > > Khoder bin Hakkin ?
> > > Hakker Bin Kodin more like!!
> > >
> > > out!
> > >
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