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RE: gargoyling the police site (fwd)

I think so(I'm not a lawyer), this is why.  The laws are wiretapping
laws, it is just so common that people TAP the conversation and stream
that information to a audio recording device. If  someone where to TAP a
conversation and use a piece of software to transcribe the audio and
delete all other records, it should still be illegal because the TAP
took place.  It would at least not be admissible in court as the
transcript would come from the tree of forbidden fruit albeit a
different branch.

I don't think jails datamine cell phones.  I thought they used people to
monitor the hardlines. But whatever the NSA uses its 10 times better
than what you can get commercially, at least I hope so. It's the NSA!

Ken 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Paine [mailto:] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:58 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)

Is it illegal to save realtime transcriptions of privately streamed
audio (non recorded) of a police officer?  This is something a wearable
computer could do someday (well, NatSpeak 5.0 can sorta already.. better
than nothing).  Wait a second.. what does the NSA/jails use to datamind
cellphone calls?  I guess they have a grammar for important words..
unless they have a superior dication mode that is better than NatSpeak
5.0, which I doubt.

> You can video tape anyone on the street. But if you are having a 
> "Private" one on one conversation with an officer and record the audio

> your violating wiretapping laws because the officer has an expectation

> of privacy. About 2 months ago someone was in the news because they 
> used a microcassette recorded while being arrested for DUI, he was 
> also charged with wiretapping.
>
> Aside from that it would be nice if policeabuse.org would use their 
> valuable time and technology to capture evidence of general abuse, in 
> other words the daily crimes that take place on the streets of 
> metropolitan areas, but that does not get you the big headlines.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:49 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: gargoyling the police site (fwd)
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:12:59 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a>
> >______________________________________________________________
> >ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204
> >57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:56:41 -0700
> >From: Khoder bin Hakkin <>
> >To: 
> >Subject: gargoyling the police site
> >
> >http://policeabuse.org/how.html
> >
> >The PCC uses state-of-the-art technology to investigate
> >and document acts of misconduct by law enforcement personnel. For 
> >example, we use digital video and miniature cameras to investigate 
> >and analyze incidents of police misconduct around the country. Using 
> >several PC's we are a capable of processing as many as five
> >hundred complaints per day. We maintain a video log
> >of police incidents captured on tape throughout the
> >country.
>
> Wow! Is that legal in the U.S.A. ?
> Or rather - is the evidence permissable.
> If everyone who got stopped for a speeding offense were allowed to 
> videotape the conviction would the officers "mind" at all ?
>
> sarin.com looks interesting :-)
> Answers on a postcard for western names associated with anti-social 
> phenomenon. Unfortunate name I guess but... Here I am focussing on 
> augmenting my reality when I could amplify it. Interesting looking 
> stuff they got there.
>
> Khoder bin Hakkin ?
> Hakker Bin Kodin more like!!
>
> out!
>
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