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Re: Sony Clie 760c

From: Doug Sutherland <>
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 17:15:00 -0600

Hi Matt,

> Right now I'm listening to MP3's in the backgroud, and
> reading emails, the OS is also doing a few more things
> like looking for input from a number of places, checking
> to see if there are any alerts that it needs to bring to
> my attention

Wow. I have to admit I find Clie attractive, I was admiring
it in the magazines. Do you know what processor is in there
and what speed it runs at?

> Serial ports are only designed to take 1 input.. you've
> worked around that in the past by using the BX24

Yes, but for my needs, there will be devices that need a
lot more band width, specifically storage devices,
displays, and multimedia devices.

> The Clie has USB input.. doesn't this mean it could have
> a USB hub plugged into it?

Most PDAs that hae USB ports are only slaves, not master,
like iPAQ, the USB port is for connection to a PC which
acts as the master. Not sure about Clie but I suspect
that it might be the same idea.

> Hmm.. I'm not sure that I agree with this idea. Computers
> are all around me.. At home, at work.. soon in my car.

I guess I really got 'separated' from the dependence on
other computers when traveling. I did a lot of that, like
maybe 40% of the time. There was no way to depend on any
other system. Because I am a networking fanatic, I also
did a lot of experimenting with the potential of the
"always on" concept taking the leap to "always on the net".
I tried for one full month to always have my wearable on
and logging my position to my home server over ricochet.
Results were better than I expected, but my overall
conclusion is that I need all of my stuff with me. The
other issue which is IMO a big one, is synchronization
of data across PDAs/handhelds, laptops, desktops, servers.
It can be dealt with in a better way, but I don't see any
really good ways yet, they are all very manual.

The other issue was power adapter and batteries. My
suitcases were full of adapters and cables, and again
I often would forget one small part, which became a
very big problem. Trying to buy adapters and cables
in europe and asia is difficult, sometimes impossible.
So, one power source, one adapter, one system, works
great for real mobility.

> I've found the people are more productive if they are
> able to use the resorces of others.  Allowing someone
> who is better at something to do it, while picking up
> the slack on other things where they are more able. I
> think this should be true of computers also.

That was supposed to be the idea behind tech like Jini
and Javaspaces, if you want something done it should not
matter which machine or device does it, but right now,
and for the forseeable short term future, there are no
automated means, because there are no real standards,
too many proprietary formats. I used to go through these
panics to load "everything I might need" before heading
for the airport. That was very painful, and I almost
always forgot something. Now that I don't rely on any
kind of server, except for backups, I know that I have
everything with me.

> The desktop is better at being a desktop than my Clie,
> or my Wearable... I ran into a large number of headaches
> trying to make my wearable into something that it wasn't
> designed to be.

It could have been designed to have the features of Clie
and a desktop, you just didn't take it that far.

> That last one was really where Nigel failed. It's where
> the Clie excells.  Simple, powerful User Interface.

These I want to add to my wearable. I want to do 1001
experiments in simple powerful interfaces. I've tried
maybe a dozen, just getting started. I personally don't
do very well with styli and graffiti type interfaces.

> I think that we don't really have as much a difference
> of opionion as different levels of need.  You are
> definatly a wearable 'power user'

I think we have a different idea as to the goals of
wearable computing. In order to achieve my goals I
will need something with more CPU and interfacing
capability. And as I said, those goals are:

- Replaces the need for having PDAs, laptops, desktops,
  even cell phones eventually, and all other gadgetry
  like GPS etc should work with wearable.

  - To remove need for multiple batteries and chargers
  - To get rid of the sychronization issues
  - To converge these tech into one

- The software will hopefully help me by being a real
  assistant, answering and screeing phone calls,
  filtering email and other information, being a master
  database of all things important to me, capturing
  information and other experiences, auto searching
  through gutenburg texts, going way beyond googling
  for information (and automatically), etc etc.

I spent years evangelizing distributed systems, the
idea that you can spread this functionality around
between PDAs and handhelds, desktops, peripherals,
etc, but it's far from reality of ease-of- use. One
of the paradigm shifts needs to remove all of the
manual synchronization of data. This can be done
on a small scale today, but due to proprietary
standards it will be a long time before it goes
much further.

My vision of using computers in different places
(work, car, home) is not much different, BUT I
want the home to detect the wearable when it
approaches and handshake via wireless, and I
want data to automatically synch between all of
these based on proximity alone. I will need more
than an average PDA to do that. I can probably
do it with SA-1110, but I want to use industrial
boards so I can have IDE, PCMCIA, USB, RS232,
PS/2, analog VGA, digital VGA (flat panel) etc.

> I'm thinking that with the proper software and
> some hardware hacks a Sony Clie or other handhelds
> could be quite suitable wearables for the average
> to even moderatly highend user.. but definatly not
> for the power user.

They certainly do look powerful. Maybe in a few
years the Clie of the future will suit my needs.
Maybe I will be the one selling them ;-)

  -- Doug

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