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Re: Flickering on 6.4" LCD

From: Doug Sutherland <>
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 13:45:39 -0500

Bryan Hurley wrote:

> I got one of the Earth LCD 6.4" kits (used) and it works....

That the same LCD I use.

> but there is flickering.. just a slow two lines of distortion that go up
> the screen then again .... I am assuming this is something to do
> with the VGA->LCD controller that is with this display..

You are generating an analog signal and converting to digital.
>From the silicon imaging web site ...

  Digital monitors—such as desktop LCDs—require an analog
  signal to be converted back to digital form. This adds cost to the
  monitor, and additional image data can be lost in the process. It
  is particularly difficult to translate analog data to control specific
  pixels on the screen; if the conversion of the sync signal is not
  perfect, you can get annoying pixel-jitter defects as interpolation
  causes the image to shift back and forth.

  By contrast, a digital interface can take the digital data directly
  from the computer and display it pixel-for-pixel on a digital display.
  The result is a rock-steady image, and the screen receives every
  bit of the original color information.

http://www.siliconimaging.com/dvi.htm

WIth direct connection from PCM-5822 LCD header, I get a rock
steady and very crisp image, no flicker.

> I was planning on getting a 5822 and was wondering, this should
> work fine and be even crisper when driven directly all digital from
> that board right?

Yes. Note however that I did see flicker on my first three attempts
to make a cable for NL6448AC20-06. I first followed the Advantech
pinouts for this display, and they put all of the ground lines on one
pin, that caused flicker. By moving the ground signals so each
has a separate pin, the flicker went away.

It seems that different graphics controllers have different levels
of tolerance for noise and attenuation. I used this same display
on two different Cell Computing (now PFU systems) boards and
I could run longer cable lengths without flicker.

Check to see that the hirose connectors are tightly seated on the
LCD end and also on the A/D converter board. It might be worth
unplugging them and plugging them back in. I hope the cable is
not longer than 18 inches because that's about as far as you can
go without using another interface like LVDS or PanelLink. But
you don't want to carry that A/D converter board anywyas, so
skip the analog altogether and wire it up like this:

NL6448AC20-06    PCM-5822

      1              3    GND
      2             35    SHFCLK
      3             38    HSYNC
      4             36    VSYNC
      5              4    GND
      6             27    RED0
      7             28    RED1
      8             29    RED2
      9             30    RED3
     10             31    RED4
     11             32    RED5
     12              8    GND
     13             19    GREEN0
     14             20    GREEN1
     15             21    GREEN2
     16             22    GREEN3
     17             23    GREEN4
     18             24    GREEN5
     19             33    GND
     20             11    BLUE0
     21             12    BLUE1
     22             13    BLUE2
     23             14    BLUE3
     24             15    BLUE4
     25             16    BLUE5
     26             34    GND
     27             37    DATA ENABLE
     28              5    VCC 5V
     29              5    VCC 5V
     30             NC    NO CONNECT
     31             39    GND

I used to have an extra connector on the LCD wire, it was a FDD
cable male and female combo, and I installed it in my jacket
pocket. That way I could just plug the LCD into the header in my
pocket and it worked great. It also distributed power to the LCD
and was hot swappable. But for some reason this does not work
with PCM-5822. Whenever I add an extra  connector, I get flicker.
Seems the cell graphics controllers worked differently, perhaps
they had stronger or cleaner signals.

  -- Doug

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