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Re: XP embedded and .NET...

From: Doug Sutherland <>
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 23:29:02 -0500

Brian,

> Wow! Did I start all this?

Jesus loves you, so does Buddha. LOL. We've done the
linux vs windows wars and the java vs windows wars here.
We even did the pentium vs crusoe wars. It tends to go
in circles. Just like philosophy wars. A more realistic
question is: what is the problem? A technical architect
does not work from solution then backwards into problem.
The needs of an enterprise are very different that an
industrial automation task, and embedded -- well, that's
still yet to be determined ... Most embedded programs
are not even at the OS level ...

> "interesting"

LOL. And here I am sending from a win95 laptop. It's just
that it's right here and all I do is web and mail, and I
don't really want to mess with it. It's a 90Mhz pentium
with 24MB RAM (woo hoo! ...) but it's like a coffee table
accessory to me.

I'm trying to download SP3 for Win2K right now, it's
125MB. The download always stops at 80MB and hangs. This
is on a 1.3mbps cable modem connection. Tried it three
times, that's 240MB and I can't seem to get it. Then I
tried the express install utility, it can't seem to find
the files it needs across the net. Yes, interesting.

> consumers seem to like it

Keeps them busy, gotta have the latest widget. My Dad is
into all kinds of software toys, most of it is eye candy.
He comes over and says "did you know you can put a little
widget there that launches google?"

> ton of new features that I'll never use ....

80% of word processing features are never used. Except
for people who are in the editing industry (reporters
and others who spend all day editing).

> runs in only 600k of RAM ... its called Windows 3.0 !!!

I have a Windows version 1.04 right here, still in the
original shrink wrap. Copyright 1987.

System requirements:

 - 320k memory
 - DOS 2.0 or higher
 - Two 5.25" disk drives
 - Graphics adapter

OR ... The Luxury System (recommended system requirements)

 - 512k memory
 - One 5.25" disk drive and a HARD DRIVE!

It has "MS-DOS Executive" Window shown on the box.
That little executive ... stuck around for a while :)
Apparently Bill bought that DOS for $60k originally!
But he DID write code for the Altair in the 70s, he
wrote a BASIC interpreter, 8080 processor, niblets
of RAM, paper tape program loading. This is considered
by most to be the first home computer. I have seen
them sell on ebay for $15k! With 4k RAM, and all you
have is LED indicators. Flip switches to "type" in
your assembly code.

This Win1.1 feels like a demon stuck in shrink
wrap in my hands. LOL Better not open it.

  -- Doug

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