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RE: Cell towers as GPS beacons? (was: reply)

From: Eugen Leitl <>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:12:34 +0100 (CET)

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, McCarty, Paul wrote:

> It seems to me that if the towers just included their GPS location in
> messages you could use that information to define an area between the
> towers that you are most likely to be located in. This is obviously a
> large area and could be miles across, but for some purposes just knowing
> you are in the middle of downtown Manhattan could be useful.

It is possible to do relativistic pings (time of flight mutual
triangulation) with ~cm accuracy. This is something ultrabroadband/digital
pulse radio best excels in. Here you don't even need base stations, as the 
architecture is ad hoc: if you're in the area, you're a node in a mesh.

Base stations don't need ephemerides nor nuke clocks, being statical.  
Their mutual drift will be ~mm year tops.

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