RE: Extremely good news: Kopin 320M Display Drivers

From: "Tony Havelka" <
>
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:17:52 -0500

Why bother rolling your own board?  
http://www.tekgear.com/product.cfm?sku=0253

-Tony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kill-9 [mailto:] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:26 PM
> To: Brian Kuriyama
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: Extremely good news: Kopin 320M Display Drivers
> 
> 
> I'll see how many I get, but I will be trying to make as many 
> boards as I can. I have a friend who is extremely proficient 
> with SMCs and soldering ASICs like the Motorola, so it 
> shouldnt be a problem. I would think that you guys who are 
> looking for chips might want that rather than the chip??? I 
> would probably charge no more than 50-75 for the boards, 
> since the chips were free, and the displays were cheap, I 
> only need to print the pcbs and pay to have some soldering 
> done. I would be testing the boards on my own wearable 
> running Linux. If this isn't the case, and no one is really 
> interested in the boards, and you would rather make them 
> yourselves, then I will probably be able to split some with 
> you. Assuming I get at least 20. (hopefully 40!). I'm glad 
> someone's doing this project along with me. Yay internet. kill-9
> 
> 
> Quoting Brian Kuriyama <>:
> 
> > YAY! 3 CHEERS FOR KILL-9!!!!! HIP HIP HORAY! HIP HIP HORAY! HIP HIP 
> > HORAY! (love spamming this e-mail) lol well 
> congratulations! you may 
> > as well be the 3rd *individual* at obtaining the chips ummm I was 
> > wondering if we could split the uh chip order/requests from 
> this list 
> > so I can still keep the lot of my chips ;-)
> > 
> > > I was
> > > basically wondering if the motorola asic will handle 
> color ntsc and
> > convert it
> > > to mono itself, or if mono MUST be sent to the asic.
> > Nope. I'm almost 100% certain that it can handle color ntsc because 
> > the TekGear M1's are based off an outdated version(i think 
> MCQVV110) 
> > of the MCQVV111AFB and they will work off a regular NTSC signal. 
> > Anyways I highly doubt Motorola would make you build a 
> special color 
> > to greyscale converter for NTSC.
> > 
> > Oh yeah, kill-9? did Motorola (or whoever you are getting the chips 
> > from) give you a tracking number??? Motorola gave me one 
> and I can't 
> > figure out how to use it or what to do with it! lol
> > 
> > Your 15 year old gadget maker,
> > Brian Kuriyama
> > 
> > 
> > oh yes and here's the current chip list:
> > 
> > Chuck Knight (2-3)
> > Dan Vasaru (2 wont mind if bundle w/ displays)
> > Bryan Hurley (2)
> > Alex (Kill-9) (could you please take half of the orders? 
> ;-) ) Justin 
> > (Technomage) (3)
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kill-9" <>
> > To: "Brian Kuriyama" <>
> > Cc: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: Extremely good news: Kopin 320M Display Drivers
> > 
> > 
> > > Yeah, I had to call Motorola, they told me that 
> distributors handle
> > samples and
> > > sales, and that findchips.com showed that Newark InOne has stock. 
> > > Newark
> > said
> > > they had no stock since it was a special order, and that 
> since they 
> > > held
> > no
> > > stock, Motorola would have to provide samples. Motorola then says 
> > > that I
> > have to
> > > get samples from distributors again, so I tell them 
> Newark says they 
> > > have
> > none,
> > > so then they call Newark for me, and have a guy call me. 
> He called 
> > > me,
> > asked
> > > some questions about annual usage, etc., and says they found some 
> > > stock in
> > Hong
> > > Kong, and will submit my request for 20-40 samples. This took 
> > > reopening
> > the
> > > service request on motorola's site many times, etc, but seems to 
> > > have
> > worked.
> > > God knows when I will get them though. When I mentioned the mono 
> > > ntsc, I
> > was
> > > basically wondering if the motorola asic will handle 
> color ntsc and
> > convert it
> > > to mono itself, or if mono MUST be sent to the asic. If 
> mono must be 
> > > sent,
> > I was
> > >  wondering if generating a mono vga mode from the 
> graphics card and 
> > > then
> > sending
> > > that through a vga-ntsc converter would be sufficient. kill-9
> > >
> > > Quoting Brian Kuriyama <>:
> > >
> > > > Hey kill-9 and Justin
> > > >
> > > > kill-9:
> > > > >After much playing of the game, motorola might just
> > > > > be sending me some samples,
> > > > sooooo did you were arguing about getting some samples from 
> > > > motorola??
> > if
> > > > you did... congradulations (i just hope i get mine too)
> > > >
> > > > >Can
> > > > > anyone point me at any info for Don Papp's connector solution?
> > > > i contacted him about it (when his mail server was actually up) 
> > > > and he
> > said
> > > > he doesn't make them anymore but it shouldn't be to hard to make
> > considering
> > > > the specs.
> > > > just look up the fpc connector for the kopin display. Flex PC, 
> > > > 1.86in free length, 20 conductor, 0.5mm pitch to mate with JST 
> > > > 20FLZ-RSM1-TB, Hirose FH12-20S-0.5SH, Molex 
> AE-52892-2090, Molex 
> > > > AE-52746-2090, or equivalent connector.
> > > >
> > > > >Also, I know that this ASIC is designed to work with 
> mono  ntsc, 
> > > > >and I was planning on getting NTSC from a vga-ntsc 
> converter, so
> > > > would it
> > > > > be enough to have the actual operating system on the pc end 
> > > > > generating
> > a
> > > > > monochrome mode?
> > > > say what????
> > > >
> > > > Justin:
> > > >
> > > > >A good addition might be a connector on the pcb for 
> the cable to  
> > > > >the cyberdisplay.
> > > > Flex PC, 1.86in free length, 20 conductor, 0.5mm pitch to mate 
> > > > with JST 20FLZ-RSM1-TB, Hirose FH12-20S-0.5SH, Molex 
> > > > AE-52892-2090, Molex AE-52746-2090, or equivalent 
> connector. (runs 
> > > > around in room screaming "TOO MANY SMALL PADS!!!, TOO MANY SMALL
> > > > PADS!!!!!") hehe i think i'd be pretty hard to create a smt 
> > > > footprint
> > for
> > > > that thingy but your welcomed to try
> > > >
> > > > > Note also that the board in the image kill-9 put up 
> is jumpered 
> > > > > for
> > PAL
> > > > (not
> > > > > NTSC).
> > > > soooo in the newer pcb you sent us is set for ntsc?
> > > >
> > > > > PS Brian is it too late to set aside say 3 of those ICs??
> > > > not at all, you just gave us all a great pcb (if they work lol)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your 15 year old gadget maker,
> > > > Brian Kuriyama
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > oh yes and here's the current chip list:
> > > >
> > > > Chuck Knight (2)
> > > > Dan Vasaru (2 wont mind if bundle w/ displays)
> > > > Bryan Hurley (2)
> > > > Alex (Kill-9) (any amount of chips [probably gonna allocate 2 
> > > > unless
> > you're
> > > > getting them from motorola])
> > > > Justin (Technomage) (3)
> > > >
> > > >
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