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RE: Extremely good news: Kopin 320M Display Drivers

Tony thats a GREAT deal for any student types here (Tekgear rides again!). Just
one teensy concern...

You list the MCQVV111 IC and the MCQVV110 pcb on the same page where the first
requires +5V AND +11V while the second needs +5V only. Could you confirm whether
the pcb includes the traces for the +11V (& caps) required for the '111? I'm
finding it difficult to discern from these images.

Just being my usual difficult self...;)

Justin

>Why bother rolling your own board?  
>http://www.tekgear.com/product.cfm?sku=0253
>
>-Tony
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kill-9 [mailto:] 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:26 PM
>> To: Brian Kuriyama
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: Re: Extremely good news: Kopin 320M Display Drivers
>> 
>> 
>> I'll see how many I get, but I will be trying to make as many 
>> boards as I can. I have a friend who is extremely proficient 
>> with SMCs and soldering ASICs like the Motorola, so it 
>> shouldnt be a problem. I would think that you guys who are 
>> looking for chips might want that rather than the chip??? I 
>> would probably charge no more than 50-75 for the boards, 
>> since the chips were free, and the displays were cheap, I 
>> only need to print the pcbs and pay to have some soldering 
>> done. I would be testing the boards on my own wearable 
>> running Linux. If this isn't the case, and no one is really 
>> interested in the boards, and you would rather make them 
>> yourselves, then I will probably be able to split some with 
>> you. Assuming I get at least 20. (hopefully 40!). I'm glad 
>> someone's doing this project along with me. Yay internet. kill-9
>> 
>> 
>> Quoting Brian Kuriyama <>:
>> 
>> > YAY! 3 CHEERS FOR KILL-9!!!!! HIP HIP HORAY! HIP HIP HORAY! HIP HIP 
>> > HORAY! (love spamming this e-mail) lol well 
>> congratulations! you may 
>> > as well be the 3rd *individual* at obtaining the chips ummm I was 
>> > wondering if we could split the uh chip order/requests from 
>> this list 
>> > so I can still keep the lot of my chips ;-)
>> > 
>> > > I was
>> > > basically wondering if the motorola asic will handle 
>> color ntsc and
>> > convert it
>> > > to mono itself, or if mono MUST be sent to the asic.
>> > Nope. I'm almost 100% certain that it can handle color ntsc because 
>> > the TekGear M1's are based off an outdated version(i think 
>> MCQVV110) 
>> > of the MCQVV111AFB and they will work off a regular NTSC signal. 
>> > Anyways I highly doubt Motorola would make you build a 
>> special color 
>> > to greyscale converter for NTSC.
>> > 
>> > Oh yeah, kill-9? did Motorola (or whoever you are getting the chips 
>> > from) give you a tracking number??? Motorola gave me one 
>> and I can't 
>> > figure out how to use it or what to do with it! lol
>> > 
>> > Your 15 year old gadget maker,
>> > Brian Kuriyama
>> > 
>> > 
>> > oh yes and here's the current chip list:
>> > 
>> > Chuck Knight (2-3)
>> > Dan Vasaru (2 wont mind if bundle w/ displays)
>> > Bryan Hurley (2)
>> > Alex (Kill-9) (could you please take half of the orders? 
>> ;-) ) Justin 
>> > (Technomage) (3)
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "kill-9" <>
>> > To: "Brian Kuriyama" <>
>> > Cc: <>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:08 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Extremely good news: Kopin 320M Display Drivers
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > Yeah, I had to call Motorola, they told me that 
>> distributors handle
>> > samples and
>> > > sales, and that findchips.com showed that Newark InOne has stock. 
>> > > Newark
>> > said
>> > > they had no stock since it was a special order, and that 
>> since they 
>> > > held
>> > no
>> > > stock, Motorola would have to provide samples. Motorola then says 
>> > > that I
>> > have to
>> > > get samples from distributors again, so I tell them 
>> Newark says they 
>> > > have
>> > none,
>> > > so then they call Newark for me, and have a guy call me. 
>> He called 
>> > > me,
>> > asked
>> > > some questions about annual usage, etc., and says they found some 
>> > > stock in
>> > Hong
>> > > Kong, and will submit my request for 20-40 samples. This took 
>> > > reopening
>> > the
>> > > service request on motorola's site many times, etc, but seems to 
>> > > have
>> > worked.
>> > > God knows when I will get them though. When I mentioned the mono 
>> > > ntsc, I
>> > was
>> > > basically wondering if the motorola asic will handle 
>> color ntsc and
>> > convert it
>> > > to mono itself, or if mono MUST be sent to the asic. If 
>> mono must be 
>> > > sent,
>> > I was
>> > >  wondering if generating a mono vga mode from the 
>> graphics card and 
>> > > then
>> > sending
>> > > that through a vga-ntsc converter would be sufficient. kill-9
>> > >
>> > > Quoting Brian Kuriyama <>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hey kill-9 and Justin
>> > > >
>> > > > kill-9:
>> > > > >After much playing of the game, motorola might just
>> > > > > be sending me some samples,
>> > > > sooooo did you were arguing about getting some samples from 
>> > > > motorola??
>> > if
>> > > > you did... congradulations (i just hope i get mine too)
>> > > >
>> > > > >Can
>> > > > > anyone point me at any info for Don Papp's connector solution?
>> > > > i contacted him about it (when his mail server was actually up) 
>> > > > and he
>> > said
>> > > > he doesn't make them anymore but it shouldn't be to hard to make
>> > considering
>> > > > the specs.
>> > > > just look up the fpc connector for the kopin display. Flex PC, 
>> > > > 1.86in free length, 20 conductor, 0.5mm pitch to mate with JST 
>> > > > 20FLZ-RSM1-TB, Hirose FH12-20S-0.5SH, Molex 
>> AE-52892-2090, Molex 
>> > > > AE-52746-2090, or equivalent connector.
>> > > >
>> > > > >Also, I know that this ASIC is designed to work with 
>> mono  ntsc, 
>> > > > >and I was planning on getting NTSC from a vga-ntsc 
>> converter, so
>> > > > would it
>> > > > > be enough to have the actual operating system on the pc end 
>> > > > > generating
>> > a
>> > > > > monochrome mode?
>> > > > say what????
>> > > >
>> > > > Justin:
>> > > >
>> > > > >A good addition might be a connector on the pcb for 
>> the cable to  
>> > > > >the cyberdisplay.
>> > > > Flex PC, 1.86in free length, 20 conductor, 0.5mm pitch to mate 
>> > > > with JST 20FLZ-RSM1-TB, Hirose FH12-20S-0.5SH, Molex 
>> > > > AE-52892-2090, Molex AE-52746-2090, or equivalent 
>> connector. (runs 
>> > > > around in room screaming "TOO MANY SMALL PADS!!!, TOO MANY SMALL
>> > > > PADS!!!!!") hehe i think i'd be pretty hard to create a smt 
>> > > > footprint
>> > for
>> > > > that thingy but your welcomed to try
>> > > >
>> > > > > Note also that the board in the image kill-9 put up 
>> is jumpered 
>> > > > > for
>> > PAL
>> > > > (not
>> > > > > NTSC).
>> > > > soooo in the newer pcb you sent us is set for ntsc?
>> > > >
>> > > > > PS Brian is it too late to set aside say 3 of those ICs??
>> > > > not at all, you just gave us all a great pcb (if they work lol)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Your 15 year old gadget maker,
>> > > > Brian Kuriyama
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > oh yes and here's the current chip list:
>> > > >
>> > > > Chuck Knight (2)
>> > > > Dan Vasaru (2 wont mind if bundle w/ displays)
>> > > > Bryan Hurley (2)
>> > > > Alex (Kill-9) (any amount of chips [probably gonna allocate 2 
>> > > > unless
>> > you're
>> > > > getting them from motorola])
>> > > > Justin (Technomage) (3)
>> > > >
>> > > >
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