Re: Books, books, and then... some books

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Paul-

How do you give a Zaurus VGA-Out? I didn't know this
was possible.

Thanks,
Jobe

--- Paul-V Khuong <> wrote:

> --- DLP <> wrote:
> [Replying to this message since I can't seem to find
> the grand-parent]
> > > At 03:40 PM 6/23/05, DLP wrote:
> > > 
> > > >At first and probably for a long while various
> > > >implementations and
> > > >dialects inspired of Common Lisp will hold my
> > attention,
> > > >but in a year
> > > >or two perhaps I may feel brave enough to let
> go
> > long
> > > >enough to take
> > > >up another language. :-)
> > > >My fascination with Common Lisp comes from the
> > fact that it's
> > > >implementations are often if not always
> > programmable
> > > >programming
> > > >languages(as the motto goes).
> > > >
> > > >Prolog is also interesting, and I understand a
> > great deal
> > > >of work has
> > > >been done using Prolog so being able to
> > understand it well
> > > >would
> > > >definately help me to read any works which I
> can
> > learn
> > > >something from.
> > > >
> > > >Though, all that said, I will probably stick
> > mostly to
> > > >something like
> > > >GNU Common Lisp. Im definately open however to
> > any
> > > >suggestions :-D
> As a CLer, I have several suggestions:
> 1. start reading comp.lang.lisp and hanging around
> in
> # if you're not already.
> 
> 2. If you're looking for a good intro to CL,
> "Practical Common Lisp" by Peter Seibel is very good
> (Dead Tree or at http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/).
> It
> doesn't teach programming in a general sense (for
> that, I'd go with, for example, David S Touretzky's
> "Common Lisp: Gentle Introduction to Symbolic
> Computation", which is out of print, but still
> available at his webpage
> http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/).
> 
> 3. GCL isn't quite as mature as either SBCL
> (http://www.sbcl.org) or CMUCL
> (http://cmucl.cons.org), which are both FOSS too.
> The
> only advantage I can see for going with GCL is that
> it
> runs with mingw on windows and that it can generate
> smaller cores for distribution. That's probably not
> relevant for a wearable (we're looking at ~20 MB for
> a
> core at most, anyway).
> 
> 4. There already are Prolog engines in Lisp. Peter
> Norvig's Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence
> Programming demonstrates a small prototype,
> AllegroCL
> (commercial vendor) comes with their own
> implementation, and there is currently a small group
> of people (~1-3, I'm not sure) working on parsing
> Prolog syntax itself in addition to working on an
> engine (the other engines only grok a lispy,
> READable
> Prolog syntax).
> 
> 5. RETE is a rule-based reasoning algorithm has been
> implemented in CL (http://lisa.sourceforge.net/ for
> example). Again this is relatively mature (given
> that
> earlier industry-standard implementations were also
> often based on CL ;).
> 
> Well, anyway, good luck with your project, whatever
> it
> may be! (I still can't find the parent or the
> grand-parent) I hope you will these pointers useful.
> 
> Ob-hardware-comment: What do you think of Motion
> Computing's LS800
>
http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_ls.asp.
> A small, full-blown slate tablet pc (8.94” by 6.69”
> by
> 0.87”, 2.2 pounds), with 802.11a/b/g and BT for 1.9k
> USD is nothing to scoff at :). Just a Zaurus + the
> equipment to give it VGA-out, BT and/or 802.11 and
> maybe USB [1.1, and not 2] (depending on the model)
> is
> already in ~1k. Of course, the computational power
> and
> storage capabilities aren,t comparable, and nor is
> the
> battery life... This doesn't seem like such a bad
> option, especially once it'll have dropped in price
> in
> a couple months.
> 
> Paul Khuong
> 
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