Re: Pierced Eyeglasses

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Instead of a Medic Alert bracelet I would imagine someone going this far
would just get tattoos, marking cautiously on their body the way things like
"NOT A STEP" and "CUT HERE FOR EMERGENCY RESCUE" are painted on aerospace
vehicles.  But for magnets and such, an emergency surgical removal of a
magnet or anything else metallic in the body would be life threatening and
very complicated when a trauma occurs that requires immediate care. Instead
of implantation, which is my ultimate goal, I am just wondering why people
aren't using their skin to attach piercings with which they could hang stuff
on them. Piercings offer a few advantages over implantations: easy to remove
in case of emergency and visible enough to be seen by emergency care givers,
much less invasive than implantation and probably cheaper, piercings can
allow you to attach devices to your body that can be easily removed too and
wires can be routed to and away from these devices by further piercing as
well. I think Greg might be on to something with magnetic piercings too, but
too bad there was no obvious way you could pierce a magnet onto the hand
like the guy that put one in his finger.

That might even be the best way to do it. Imagine if Greg's advice here was
taken into consideration and the design was redone so that the end points of
this guy's piercing on either side of his nose were magnetic pads - he could
easily do things like change the angle of his lenses, move them forward or
closer to his eyes, and if need be he could remove them before sleeping. Of
course, these would have to be very strong magnets and is it really ok to
put such strong magnets near one's brain?

Another article on BMEzine showed someone with a piercing on the back of
their wrist to attach a watch there, which is another interesting use of
piercings.

There is also the matter of how to isolate these strong magnetic fields from
the electronics you want to attach magnetically.

For about half a decade now I have also considered having a titanium socket
implanted in the bone of my skull so that I could screw on an HMD; but that
design could be modified to include a magnetic mount for safe breakaway.

On 10/16/07, Lenny Foner <> wrote:
>
>     Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:07:42 -0400
>     From: 
>
>     > But if I did, I think I would Attach the glasses with those high
> power
>     > magnets so I could get them out of the way easily.  Make the nose
>     > peice smooth and powerfully magnetic, click on the glasses.
>
>     That's probably a safer design than the original pierced-nose glasses.
>     There are some people with implanted magnets, which were originally
>     intended to allow them to carry ferrous objects. According to an
>     article in Wired[1], if the implant is used to carry a magnetic
>     object, the skin between the magnet and the external object eventually
>     dies and the magnet comes out.
>
>     On the up side, they gained the ability to sense magnetic fields,
>     including those around AC lines and speaker wires. It's not all fun,
>     games, and supersenses, though, because the magnets are brittle,
>     allegedly carcinogenic, and separated from the implantee's bloodstream
>     by a thin layer of silicone [2].
>
> ...and if you ever have to have an MRI of any part of your body (not
> just your head), you're in deep, deep trouble.  This is -particularly-
> bad if the actual magnets are recessed and thus not obvious to a casual
> inspection; remember also that not all MRIs are scheduled weeks in
> advance and in consultation with the patient---some are required very
> quickly, with an unconscious patient, after accidents, strokes, ...
>
> I imagine you'd at least want a Medic Alert bracelet that explains
> that you have metal objects in your body, where they are, how to
> remove them, and the health implications of doing so (in this case,
> none, unless they're allowed to remain... :).
>
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Instead of a Medic Alert bracelet I would imagine someone going this far wo=
uld just get tattoos, marking cautiously on their body the way things like =
"NOT A STEP" and "CUT HERE FOR EMERGENCY RESCUE" are pa=
inted on aerospace vehicles.  But for magnets and such, an emergency s=
urgical removal of a magnet or anything else metallic in the body would be =
life threatening and very complicated when a trauma occurs that requires im=
mediate care. Instead of implantation, which is my ultimate goal, I am just=
 wondering why people aren't using their skin to attach piercings with =
which they could hang stuff on them. Piercings offer a few advantages over =
implantations: easy to remove in case of emergency and visible enough to be=
 seen by emergency care givers, much less invasive than implantation and pr=
obably cheaper, piercings can allow you to attach devices to your body that=
 can be easily removed too and wires can be routed to and away from these d=
evices by further piercing as well. I think Greg might be on to something w=
ith magnetic piercings too, but too bad there was no obvious way you could =
pierce a magnet onto the hand like the guy that put one in his finger.
 That might even be the best way to do it. Imagine if Greg's adv=
ice here was taken into consideration and the design was redone so that the=
 end points of this guy's piercing on either side of his nose were magn=
etic pads - he could easily do things like change the angle of his lenses, =
move them forward or closer to his eyes, and if need be he could remove the=
m before sleeping. Of course, these would have to be very strong magnets an=
d is it really ok to put such strong magnets near one's brain?
 Another article on BMEzine showed someone with a piercing on the ba=
ck of their wrist to attach a watch there, which is another interesting use=
 of piercings. There is also the matter of how to isolate these stro=
ng magnetic fields from the electronics you want to attach magnetically.
 For about half a decade now I have also considered having a titaniu=
m socket implanted in the bone of my skull so that I could screw on an HMD;=
 but that design could be modified to include a magnetic mount for safe bre=
akaway.=20
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edia.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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    Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:07:42 -0400  &nbs=
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/a>     > But if I did, I think I would Attac=
h the glasses with those high power     > magnets=
 so I could get them out of the way easily.  Make the nose
     > peice smooth and powerfully magnetic, clic=
k on the glasses.     That's probably a safe=
r design than the original pierced-nose glasses.     =
;There are some people with implanted magnets, which were originally
     intended to allow them to carry ferrous objects=
. According to an     article in Wired[1], if the im=
plant is used to carry a magnetic     object, the sk=
in between the magnet and the external object eventually
     dies and the magnet comes out.  &nb=
sp;  On the up side, they gained the ability to sense magnetic fi=
elds,     including those around AC lines and speake=
r wires. It's not all fun,     games, and supers=
enses, though, because the magnets are brittle,
     allegedly carcinogenic, and separated from the =
implantee's bloodstream     by a thin layer of s=
ilicone [2]. ...and if you ever have to have an MRI of any part of y=
our body (not just your head), you're in deep, deep trouble. &n=
bsp;This is -particularly-
 bad if the actual magnets are recessed and thus not obvious to a casual=
 inspection; remember also that not all MRIs are scheduled weeks in a=
dvance and in consultation with the patient---some are required very 
quickly, with an unconscious patient, after accidents, strokes, ... =
I imagine you'd at least want a Medic Alert bracelet that explains t=
hat you have metal objects in your body, where they are, how to remove t=
hem, and the health implications of doing so (in this case,
 none, unless they're allowed to remain... :). ______________=
_________________________________ Wear-Hard mailing list <a href=3D"m=
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