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Re: Votetaker assigned for comp.sys.wearables vote

Thanks for runing the vote for comp.sys.wearables.  As mentioned below,
I was hoping this CFV distributed to the mailinglist 
'' where a great deal of wearable discussion takes
place and the proposal originated, but I believe it is a moderated group.
It's easy to get on the list by sending email to:
 with 'subscribe' in the body, but if you
experience any problems, or would rather not do this I would like
permission to reproduce the CFV on the mailing list.

Thanks for your help.
-Paul  

R. Paul McCarty / DARS Coordinator /  / x52059
317 Lattimore Hall, University of Rochester, Rochester, NY 14627
Computers don't make errors; what they do, they do on purpose.-Dale/KOTH

On 2 May 1998, Neil Crellin wrote:

> 
> 
> G'day! I'm writing to inform you that I've been assigned the vote for
> comp.sys.wearables. I enclose below a copy of the draft CFV for
> your perusal, and I just want to cover a few fundamental issues up
> front.
> 
> * Do not distribute the CFV; don't mail it, post it, or put it on the web.
>   I'll be happy to mail it to anyone who wants it. Have them contact
>   me at <> asking for a copy of your CFV
>   if they have trouble finding a copy.  Even more importantly, do
>   *not* distribute edited or partial copies of the CFV or voting
>   instructions; this will result in invalidation of your ballot and
>   all the ballots resulting from your distribution, or in the
>   cancellation of the entire vote. 
> 
> * Under no circumstances can I make information on the progress of
>   the vote available before the RESULT post appears.  If this
>   information were to get out, it would be grounds for cancelling
>   the vote.
> 
> * As a third party votetaker I must remain impartial. Since I can't
>   comment on the substance of the proposal, I'll refer any voters with
>   questions or comments about it to you.  I will be answering any
>   questions people have about voting procedures; feel free to refer
>   these questions to me. If I get any questions or comments from
>   voters, they will be referred to you. 
> 
> * As much as possible, please refrain from campaigning during the
>   voting period and let real levels of interest drive voters.  Be
>   aware that proponent campaigning can cause a voter backlash and
>   produce the opposite result of that intended.  If you do campaign,
>   make sure to do it properly:  Place *pointers* to the CFV in
>   groups where you can be reasonably sure people will be interested
>   in the topic.
> 
> * If you intend to distribute pointers to the CFV in mailing lists, 
>   I strongly urge you to discuss this with me before the vote commences.
> 
> Please check over the draft CFV below and let me know if you see any
> problems with it. Once I hear back from you I'll submit the CFV into
> the system and we can get started. If you have any questions about the
> process, please don't hesitate to ask.
> 
> -Neil Crellin
> Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
> 
> From: Neil Crellin <>
> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,comp.sys.pen
> Subject: CFV: comp.sys.wearables moderated
> References: <> <>
> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
> Reply-To: [not shown on draft CFV]
> 
>                         FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
>                      moderated group comp.sys.wearables
> 
> This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
> posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
> the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.
> 
> Newsgroups line:
> comp.sys.wearables        Wearable computers and their applications. (Moderated)
> 
> Votes must be received by [not shown on draft CFV]
> 
> This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
> about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
> 
> Proponent: Gregory Martin Pfeil <>
> Proponent: R. Paul McCarty <>
> Votetaker: Neil Crellin <>
> 
> RATIONALE: comp.sys.wearables
> 
> A wearable computer is exactly that: a miniature computer which can be
> (and is) worn. Often the CPU will be attached to the belt or in some sort
> of satchel. A heads-up display, such as VR glasses, is used along with
> some kind of input device, usually a one-handed keyboard. The purpose of
> these machines is to make a personal computer truly personal. The user no
> longer has to stay confined to a desk and chair to access their
> information, it is with them wherever they are. The wearable computer is
> a step forward in information availability.
> 
> There is a contingent of compuphiles who either are, or are interested
> in, working with wearable computers. There are currently newsgroups for
> both laptop and palmtop computers, but neither of these properly contains
> the niche of the wearable computer. Since most wearable users operate in
> Unix and frequent Usenet in order to keep up-to-date in the field, they will
> easily find and subscribe to this group. This newsgroup will also bring
> together the subscribers of any local wearable groups that may exist at
> locations such as MIT and CMU, hopefully increasing the speed at which
> this technology proceeds.
> 
> CHARTER: comp.sys.wearables
> 
> A forum for the creation and distribution of wearable computer systems
> and their software as well as for the dissemination of knowledge on these
> subjects. Appropriate topics of discussion would include choosing the
> architechture and O/S for a wearable system; product preferences including
> quality, specifications and applications; methods of constrution; and
> courses of study. Posting binaries is discouraged, technical diagrams
> necessary to the construction of systems and other such binaries should
> be accessed via a link to an FTP or Web site.
> 
> Posts on semi-wearables, such as pen systems and PDAs should be posted
> to their respective newsgroups, not comp.sys.wearables.
> 
> Commercial advertisements, political discussions (except those dealing
> with the acceptiblity of wearable systems), flames, etc. are not
> appropriate in this group. The general "netiquette" FAQs posted in
> news.announce.newusers and news.answers all apply to
> comp.sys.wearables.
> 
> Commercial advertisements for wearable and related products and services
> may be allowed at the human moderators' discretion, but will be generally
> prohibited.
> 
> Moderation Policy
> 
> The moderation policy will combine robo-moderation and a moderation
> group to set standards for discussion. The group will also issue a
> monthly posting listing the groups charter and posting guidelines.
> 
> The robo-moderator shall search every submission to comp.sys.wearables
> for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these
> trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of
> trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who will add words as
> needed and at the moderators' discretion. Moderators will then review
> the article and promptly post it to comp.sys.wearables provided it is
> consistent with the charter for comp.sys.wearables. In addition to
> discussion of wearables as outlined above discussion of the charter
> itself for comp.sys.wearables, the moderators, moderation policies, and
> related groups and the differences between this group and related groups,
> and the formation of new groups similar to or derived from
> comp.sys.wearables is acceptable, but subject to the moderators'
> discretion.
> 
> An express poster list will be maintained to allow known posters to the
> group (such as the moderators) to be posted automatically. Submissions
> from those not on the express poster list, will be subject to trigger
> word checks and human moderation as discussed above. Posters can be added
> to or removed from the express posting list by any moderator.
> 
> If a post is rejected by both the robo-moderator and the human moderators
> a message may be sent to the poster to explain the reasons for rejection.
> 
> Only one moderator need accept an article for it to be posted to the
> comp.sys.wearables. In the event that a single human moderator strongly
> objects to a post, they may block posting by sending a message to all
> moderators and requesting a discussion of the post. If there is concensus
> that the message should not be posted (if at least 50% of the moderators
> objects to the post) it will not be posted.
> 
> The initial moderation group will be composed of those listed below in
> the moderator information section.
> 
> Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as
> demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation
> panel, he or she agrees to make a public statement at least one month
> prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. When
> vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor
> with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel.
> Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the
> moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status
> due to personal demands. If this inactive status exceeds six months,
> the moderator position will be considered vacant, and a replacement
> may be sought.
> 
> Disclaimer
> - The moderators of this newsgroup are not responsible for
>   truthfulness or legality of any of the posts.
> - The approval of a post by a moderator is NOT an endorsement by the
>   moderator or board.
> - Posters assume full responsibility for the content of their posts.
> - Readers using information that appears in the newsgroup do so at
>   their own risk.
> - Posters agree that by posting items to this newsgroup they indemnify
>   and hold harmless the directors and service providers.
> - The copyright for all posts remains with the poster or in the public
>   domain as appropriate.
> 
> END CHARTER.
> 
> MODERATOR INFO: comp.sys.wearables
> 
> Moderator: "R. Paul McCarty" <>
> Moderator: Gregory Martin Pfeil <>
> Administrative contact address: 
> Article submission address: 
> 
> END MODERATOR INFO.
> 
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> This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
> PQ datestamp: 980322
> 
> --
> Voting address: [not shown on draft CFV]
> 

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