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Re: Is the New Mac OS/WinNT Unix based?

From: "Felix S. Gallo" <>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:58:03 -0700

Bill writes:
>I've heard that the new Mac OS will be based on a Unix-type kernal. 
>I've also heard similiar claims that NT is more Unix-like than 95.  Are
>these claims correct and if so what does "Type" or "like" really mean.

Mac OS will be based on Mach, a 'microkernel'.  A 'microkernel' is
distinguished from other kinds of operating system kernels by
virtue of it being very small and lightweight.  Generally, microkernels
only contain instructions for communicating between processes --
processes implemented at a higher level using these primitives are
responsible for doing all the neat stuff.  With a microkernel, you
could theoretically, for instance, run two 'operating system' programs
at once, or switch out your TCP/IP implementation for a new one
without rebooting.  Several Unixes are implemented in this fashion
or similarly (MkLinux for Macs, QNX, MachBSD, etc.)

NT is more Unix-like in that it has the notion of security and identity
across multiple users and multiple processes, unlike Windows 95.
This means that, for example, it's difficult for one process to screw
indiscriminately with another, or with the OS, etc.  In easier to
understand terms, the ways NT can crash are fewer, and it's easier
to have multiple people use NT boxes.

Importantly, NT is not Unix-like in that it still crashes ridiculously
and often, Internet client support is tacked on in a bag on the side,
Internet server support is largely not included, and the killer -- it
has a really _bad_, proprietary programming API that nobody
who creates 'brand new' systems would ever dream of using 
on purpose.

>Could either suplant Linux as a wearable favorite (ignoring the size
>factor by presuming either could be cut to the core if necessary)?

In a previous life, my group developed an 'embedded' form of NT.
It was an abusive nightmare from which I often wake up screaming.

MacOS is designed to help people run Photoshop faster.  Given the
foreseeable-future status of displays and the less-applicable desktop
metaphor MacOS demands, I bet it won't be interesting either.

Linux, NetBSD, RiscBSD, QNX, and PalmOS look like the runaway
future, until some poor sap of a commercial company gets whipped
into making a CE device for political purposes.

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