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Re: Displays and such...

From: Rehmi Post <>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:51:02 -0500

Todd Freeman wrote:
> Ok... I give... anyone have FPGA programming knowledge on here? I would
> be willing to chip in to pay them to make an open source/hardware fpga
> that would allow us to use the kopin displays or a displaytech device? I
> am very surprised that no one has even tried yet (saying this since I
> have not seen anyone talk about it ... someone may be but...)

I never said I wasn't working on it ;^).  The hard part isn't generating the
video, it's the PCI interface.  ISA is easier, and USB is next.

By the way, I dug up my single-PIC P4 driver code that emulates a glass TTY with
an 8x8 font. Anybody interested in this, drop me a note.

> If we could get one design that would work maybe we could all buy some
> FPGA's in a bulk buy... buy some displays in another... and wire us some
> hardware! :)

No need.  "10,000 gate" chips are going for $10 these days.  A VGA video timing
and character generator fits into that with space to spare.

Or if you're on a tighter budget, scavenge an old VGA-to-NTSC scan converter. 
Most of them contain three video ADCs, some fast SRAM, an FPGA, a video DAC, and
a multi-tap delay line.  These go for $10 at hamfests.  All you do is pop out
the configuration serial PROM, and download your own design into the chip.

> I know that it is not that easy but... as a side note... anyone have the
> stuff to go from VHDL code to the output code that these companies want?
> I have talked to 2 of them and they keep wanting me to buy there $20000+
> program ... then I explain I am a college student *phone goes thunk*

You can get the Altera tools FREE from www.altera.com.  You can easily apply for
the Xilinx University Program as well (www.xilinx.com), with a little support
from an advisor.  Or you can buy the Xilinx Student Edition software and
textbook for <$200 from Prentice-Hall.  Wait a month for the new edition, which
has the Foundation 1.5 tools.  And while you're waiting, apply for FREE hardware
from the XEss corporation (www.xess.com) who make a series of nifty little
starter boards for FPGA design.

Don't learn VHDL.  Do learn Verilog, and try out the FREE Verilog simulation
tool known as VeriBest from www.wellspring.com.

Did I mention that you can get both software and hardware FREE?  Oh, yeah.  I
did.  It's like getting kids hooked on drugs for nothing in the schoolyard, so
that when they grow up and get jobs they'll support a real habit.

Good luck,
	-Rehmi

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