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Re: Probably OT: MP3 Player revisited

From: "R. Paul McCarty" <>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:34:02 +0000

I think this is complete unrealistic.  You have a complete wearable
pentium class computer here (minus the HMD).  It would be expensive
(easilly over $1k), it would be big (a pc/104 board with pcmcia is
already the size of a walkman before you add batteries), and it would be
power hungry.  I've seen press releases from (trying to track down) a
couple of vendors who are building devices the size of the rio
incorporating IBM's microdrives (~100-300MB drives) into these cigarette
pack sized devices with battery lifes around 8-12 hours for 1AA
battery.  And for less then $500.  Of course transfers are still slow
over a parallel port connection, but if you can cram several albums on
these it may not be such a bother.

BTW, I have the Diamond RIO and I use it every day.  Usually transfer
bunch of songs once a week and listen to them in chaotic order.

Cheers.
-Paul

Legacy Xunker wrote:
> 
> I know this has probably been discussed ad nausea already, but I'd like
> to revisit it a little bit.
> 
> The problem will current portable MP3 players are storage.  1 hour of
> music at 112kps doesn't cut it for me.  That's why the idea of a build
> yourself MP3 box seems so seductive.
> 
> So here is my basic idea:  We need something with enough horsepower (at
> least a p60 speed should do), sound (16 bit, nothing special, maybe
> SRS), large storage and decent battery life (at least 4 hours).
> 
> The engine I would envision is something really close to the Cell
> Computing dx-100 card which is faster than a p75 at decent power usage.
> I don't know if it has sound built in, but I hope so.  A pc/104 sled
> wouldn't really be necessary, as for the minimal IO that need to be done
> you could make one substantially smaller- We'd need power in, sound out,
> Serial IDE and (preferably) an interface for PCMCIA.  Video wouldn't be
> needed, as you really wouldn't use a HMD for this; a serial display
> module would do.  The other serial port would be for sound and
> navigation, something like the remotes for portable Minidisk players.
> Power would be one of the largest things size wise, but I NiMH battery
> like I have for my PowerBook, 45wh at 5 inches by 2.5 inches by .75
> inches, and would give four hours and change, depending on
> configuration.
> 
> Configuration, you cry?  Yes-- this is where the PCMCIA slots come in.
> One slot would be a Flash card, about 10-20 meg would be great, to hold
> the OS (linux custom) and playlists.  The other would be for the user.
> Instead of a fixed IDE hard drive (although it would be nice), but
> modular storage via PC Card peripherals.  These would include Flash and
> SRam Cards, CD-ROM drives, SuperDisk and Zip drives and even SCSI
> devices.  Using some code that would automagically detect these and play
> from them, you could choose your media verses paying 60 bucks for a 32
> meg SmartMedia Card.  Most of the drive are small enough (like the
> PCMCIA zip drives) to be strung on a belt or bandolier (sp).  Vibration
> and shock would be a problem, but to help this, each MP3 could be copied
> to the boot device, which is solid state, and spin down any rotational
> media you use until the next file.  Seek times would suffer on intro
> play mode, but if the method is just "look through play list (on boot
> device) on LCD, load song, spin down drive"  it wouldn't be too bad, and
> save battery power.  And for pure linear play, depending on boot device
> size, you could copy 2 or three songs to Flash ram and keep them in
> queue.  And going even further, you could have an accelerometer rigged
> up to detect them there was no movement or vibration and load files
> then.
> 
> Comments?  I know this is really OT, but it uses the same hardware as
> wearables so...
> 
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