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From: "DaBoss Mariachi" <>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:07:31 +0530

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>You make two interesting (by intersting I mean, it boggles my mind ;)
>assumptions here, that I disagree with:
>1) there is something wrong with people eating food and we need to find
>a better way to provide our body with energy.  But I think I see what
>you're getting at.
>2) there are only two methods of deriving energy for said bodies,
>combustion and digestion.

>once again, there are other sources of energy and your analogy seems
>rather haphazard, since silicon doesn't run on combustion, it runs on
>electricity and there are lots of sources of electricity.

>Let's just run with this analogy.. your brain is now represented in =
some
>fashion in silicon (or whatever computing electronics technology is
>popular at the time).  You just want a steady stream of electricity =
that
>is reliable for years without maintenance.. I would say you want either
>an orbiting platform in space with solar power (sun never sets in =
space)
>or nuclear power.  Every other source of power (especially your local
>power company) is too unreliable, you can't count on the wind, or
>generators, or hydroelectric.  But I suppose they could work if you had
>a good battery backup system or several redundant sources of power.

>Personally I think space is your best bet. ;)

>-Paul

The reason i asked was, i thought, self-evident.
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I am theorising about eternal life, existing either as
1> a human with a machine brain (that was orginally a human brain)
2> a machine with a human brain
=20
That way, we could never die, thanks to technology.
=20
According to me combustion and digestion are the most widespread(ok, =
ok.......i know they are not that efficient!!) and convenient methods of =
energy production. I am talking about a fully mobile humanoid unit who =
can
1> trek
2> go to african jungles
3> remote mountain tops
4> white water rafting
ad infinitum, ad nauseum

Keeping these appications in mind:

1> using a space station may be a trifle expensive and inconvenient for =
my budget
2> a nuclear thermopile is still really Asimovian, and i would not trust =
atom-splitting units in a fun, outdoorsy robot guy. I dont think we need =
hundreds of mini-chernobyls walking all over our planet.

A cyborg based on digestion may be able to survive in all climes except =
mebbe in the tundra or on long space voyages, where your space station =
idea is the best. The sun(s) always shine in space. I will tell my pals =
at NASA bout ur idea ;-)

Wearables here woulld help in the transfer of logic and memories to the =
silicon. .................i.e., as we act in our day to day life, the =
wearable tries to captures the logic and stores it for future =
programming in the PGA.

Sunil

Btw..............i use hotmail b4 they were acquired my WimpySoft. The =
reason i use it is, amazingly, patriotism. Sabeer Bhatia is an Indian, =
and I wanted 2 support the dude. Its nice to see a poor bloke succeed in =
silicon v.   ;o)

=20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>>You make two interesting (by intersting I mean, =
it boggles=20
my mind ;)<BR>>assumptions here, that I disagree with:<BR>>1) =
there is=20
something wrong with people eating food and we need to find<BR>>a =
better way=20
to provide our body with energy.  But I think I see =
what<BR>>you're=20
getting at.<BR>>2) there are only two methods of deriving energy for =
said=20
bodies,<BR>>combustion and digestion.<BR><BR><BR>>once again, =
there are=20
other sources of energy and your analogy seems<BR>>rather haphazard, =
since=20
silicon doesn't run on combustion, it runs on<BR>>electricity and =
there are=20
lots of sources of electricity.<BR><BR>>Let's just run with this =
analogy..=20
your brain is now represented in some<BR>>fashion in silicon (or =
whatever=20
computing electronics technology is<BR>>popular at the time).  =
You just=20
want a steady stream of electricity that<BR>>is reliable for years =
without=20
maintenance.. I would say you want either<BR>>an orbiting platform in =
space=20
with solar power (sun never sets in space)<BR>>or nuclear =
power.  Every=20
other source of power (especially your local<BR>>power company) is =
too=20
unreliable, you can't count on the wind, or<BR>>generators, or=20
hydroelectric.  But I suppose they could work if you had<BR>>a =
good=20
battery backup system or several redundant sources of=20
power.<BR><BR>>Personally I think space is your best bet.=20
;)<BR><BR>>-Paul<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The reason i asked was, i=20
thought, self-evident.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am theorising about eternal life, existing either=20
as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1> a human with a machine brain (that was =
orginally a human=20
brain)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2> a machine with a human brain</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>That way, we could never die, thanks to=20
technology.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>According to me combustion and digestion are the =
most=20
widespread(ok, ok.......i know they are not that efficient!!) and =
convenient=20
methods of energy production. I am talking about a fully mobile humanoid =
unit=20
who can</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1> trek</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2> go to african jungles</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>3> remote mountain tops</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>4> white water rafting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ad infinitum, ad nauseum</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Keeping these appications in mind:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>1> using a space station may be a trifle =
expensive and=20
inconvenient for my budget</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2> a nuclear thermopile is still really =
Asimovian, and i=20
would not trust atom-splitting units in a fun, outdoorsy robot guy. I =
dont think=20
we need hundreds of mini-chernobyls walking all over our =
planet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>A cyborg based on digestion may be able to survive =
in all=20
climes except mebbe in the tundra or on long space voyages, where your =
space=20
station idea is the best. The sun(s) always shine in space. I will tell =
my pals=20
at NASA bout ur idea ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Wearables here woulld help in the transfer of logic =
and=20
memories to the silicon. .................i.e., as we act in our day to =
day=20
life, the wearable tries to captures the logic and stores it for =
future=20
programming in the PGA.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sunil</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Btw..............i use hotmail b4 they were acquired =
my=20
WimpySoft. The reason i use it is, amazingly, patriotism. =
Sabeer Bhatia is=20
an Indian, and I wanted 2 support the dude. Its nice to see a poor bloke =
succeed=20
in silicon v.   ;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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