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Re: spam.. Grrr.

From: Mark Willis <>
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 15:48:52 -0700

Several things can be done:

(1)  Close the list to non-subscribers posts.  Pretty easy to do, with
most list software;  Those with multiple accounts they want to subscribe
to the list from, would want to have "NoMail" set on the accounts
they're not currently getting the list at (This means, "Subscribe me,
but don't send posts to me."  Handy capability, I don't know if the
current software does all this though;  L-Soft's does, it's what I'm
used to.  We'd need fast unsubscribing for any subscribers that DID send
spam, usually SPAMmers are too dumb/lazy to actually subscribe & then
post to a list, they're after instant gratification, not eventual
results...

(Wish I could get my old nwlink account off the list, we don't seem to
have an admin here!?)

(2)  Close the wear-hard archives to reading by outsiders - all a
Spammer has to do is go feed the archives as input to an "e-mail address
snagger" program, when they buy to start with, and they end up with YOUR
e-mail address from YOUR post.  WPoison could be used here, also, but,
easier to just close the door totally;  Bit of a pain to manage that,
though.  Alternately, could "munge" the e-mail addresses in that
archive, so posts aren't tracable back to your e-mail address.  Changing
@ to ^@^ or something on each post, would help <G>

(3)  Track the spammer down & have 'em booted off their ISP.  (Or have
them drawn & quartered <EG>)  This isn't a total cure-all, (Well, the
first isn't anyways!) but, does tend to slow them down for a bit. 
Problem is, they use stolen credit cards to get "free" 250 minute AOL
accounts quite often, then use those up, and they send a lot of mail in
those 250 minutes.  And steal AOL accounts etc., when they can.  I can
help trace headers, if you don't know how (Need full headers.)

(4)  Use a revision scheme for your e-mail address (like myname9910 for
this month, myname9911 for next month, etc.)  Lot of personal work, but
it does fix Spammers' wagons.  Or use some other numbering scheme, and
revise & drop the previous one at the first SPAM, as some people do; 
It's a pain tho.

Just first thoughts, I need to go finish moving so I'm scanning fast.

I'll post tracing on those SPAM headers tonight, to the list.

  Mark

Lee Adamson wrote:
> 
> Well, this is rather OT, so I'll try to keep it short and not waste
> bandwidth.
> 
> The only thing that I use this address for is this mailing list.
> 
> I have been getting huge amounts of spam lately, and I have no way to block
> webmail (you have to pay extra. bleh).
> 
> So I assume that the spammer(s) are getting addresses from this list.
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, is there anything we can do about
> it?
> 
> Thanks,
>   -Lee.
> 
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